Budget for Living in Thailand

What’s a Realistic Budget for Living in Thailand?

Here’s an example of my most recent handyman bill and the story behind it:Technician bill

The mounting of my sliding carport gate came adrift and needed three welds and my guest bedroom sink was leaking water because its drain and stopper had never been correctly installed and needed replacing.

Our Concierge tech team, two guys, showed up unannounced (everyone in Thailand shows up unannounced) welded the gate and took the sink away. They returned it with a handsome new chrome drain and stopper correctly installed and hooked it up to the plumbing and the problems were solved. Then they handed me the bill, which I read as 7,365 baht (US$225) fair, thought, for such repairs, especially since it included better quality plumbing hardware than the original. I handed the guys 8,000 baht and was about to tell them to keep the change when they burst out laughing and pointed to the numeral I had read was ‘7’. It’s the locals’ way of writing ‘1’.

Typical Expat Monthly Budgets. Our most recent survey shows that twenty-three percent of expats in Thailand have monthly budgets of 25K-45K baht a month. Forty-eight percent have budgets over 65k baht and ten percent with over 145K baht to spend.Thailand Expat Budgets

When I wanted to create a Budget for Living in Thailand in 2018 I turned to an expert on Thai budgeting, Nancy Lindley. With years of bookkeeping experience, she makes personal budgets and also keeps to them. Better still, she keeps careful note of unexpected expenses and keeps her finger on the pulse of Thailand’s cost of living. Happily, a cost of living budget in Thailand is pretty easy to figure out. It’s been predictable since the Asian Financial Crisis (you’ve probably forgotten; Thais haven’t).

Significantly, Nancy has a second calling: she cares for expatriates who fall on hard times. She visits them in hospital, contacts their relatives, talks to the consulate and spends countless hours repatriating very sick people who cannot afford long-term or major medical care in Thailand and must go home for treatment. She has seen a side of expatriate life that few of us even think about, so my Thai budgeting conversations with her are always sobering.

I asked Nancy to draw up two budgets for living in Thailand , one for the average Thai and one for five times the average Thai’s cost of living budget, and to comment on each. I’ve added my own comments after hers. Both budgets are for living in Chiang Mai (learn more). For Bangkok add 15%; for the countryside subtract 15%. These figures are current as of 2014. E-mail me, [email protected] if you have questions. I lived on this budget for 12 months:

Budget for Average Thai Salary of $500/mo

      CATEGORY US $           EXPLANATION
RENT $80 12 month lease agreement
UTILITIES 30 Electric, TV, water
INTERNET 20 1 hr./day @ Internet cafe
TRANSPORTATION 20 1 Songthaew ride/day
FOOD 200 Requires careful nutrition selection
PERSONAL CARE 30 Toiletries, hair cuts, etc.
ENTERTAINMENT 30 Nice meal, movie, day trip
MISCELLANEOUS 100 Visa, phone, laundry
TOTAL $510

 

Nancy’s Comments on the $600 Budget for living in Thailand: “I’ve seen single people lead nice, pleasant lives on this budget. Here’s how they do it”:

  • They have a fan (no a/c) room on the lower, east side (cooler) floor in the old city,
  • They walk or bicycle just about everywhere,
  • They use the AUA library for books,
  • They breakfast at the Pub where they watch American, Australian and British sports.
  • They take Thai lessons at a wat (temple), etc.
  • There’s no room for a steady girlfriend or regular beer-drinking habit.
  • You must have savings/insurance for medical costs which are not reflected in this budget.
  • I’ve known several guys who have a pension of 30,000 – 40,000 baht/month who live on a 15,000 baht budget and save the rest for medical emergencies and to build a bank account to justify a retirement visa. This takes discipline, which disappears if they acquire a Thai girlfriend who learns about the existence of a savings account!”

Cost of Living in Thailand Examples:

Medical: Two farang friends have just delivered babies – girls – in Chiang Mai hospitals. Each had a private room, one for four days. Their total was pre-agreed: 60,000 Bt (US$1700) each. Both were delighted by the care they received which, in one case, included an autographed photo of the entire delivery team gathered around the bed of the exhausted mother holding her baby for the first time. Another friend got bad food poisoning and went to the hospital. She needed intensive care but every bed in the hospital was full, so the doctor, not wanting to put her back in an ambulance, had his desk removed from his office and a bed installed for her. The bill next day was 1400 Bt (US$40). When she protested that this was too low, staff told her it was because she did  not have a ‘proper room’. A nurse called her at home that night to check her progress.
Automotive: I’ve been doing a lot of fast driving through mountainous roads lately and can assure you that even remote roads are well maintained in the Kingdom. But taking thousands of curves stresses wheel bearings, apparently, because one of mine went out. I discovered this when I went to have the Toyota’s front alignment checked after I hit a pothole (in the middle of town!) and the steering went weird. The shop fixed the affected wheel and moved it to the rear, then balanced and aligned the front wheels. They refused payment because I’d bought the Michelins (3000 Bt each) from them and the work was covered by their lifetime warranty – a pleasant  surprise. There was no denying the wheel bearing problem (the grinding noise was obvious once they pointe it out) so the next day they came and picked up the car. It was back a few hours later along with a bill for 2,000 Bt. and the old bearing in the factory box that held the new bearing. Don’t worry too much about the cost of owning a car in Chiang Mai: it’s far less than you’re accustomed to at home.

Rick, Who Lives on $600 Budget in Thailand

Budget for Living in Thailand on Five Times the Average Thai Salary

CATEGORY

US $

EXPLANATION

UTILITIES $100 Covers A/C on hottest days
INTERNET 40 Cable Internet
LAUNDRY, MAID 85 Weekly Maid Service
TRANSPORT 100 Songthaew or rent scooter
FOOD, DINING 500 Some wine, beer
PERSONAL CARE 100 Monthly Manicure/Massage
ENTERTAINMENT 200 Nice weekly meals/movies
INSURANCE-MEDICAL 300 Out-of-pocket medical
VISA 170 Renewals, extensions by lawyer
PHONE TIME 50 Calls in Thailand are cheap
RENT 500 Rental for a nice house
MAJOR TRAVEL 200 Or big ticket purchases
TOTAL $2,345 This is my current budget, living alone, traveling abroad regularly.

 

 Nancy’s Comments on the $2,400 Budget for Thailand

There is much more room to play with this budget. In it I assume:

  • The couple is renting a condo in town.
  • Housing is cheaper further out but transportation costs are higher–making a car a necessity.
  • No sane retiree is going to rely solely on a motor scooter [see the note below].
  • The couple is fairly healthy,
  • They eat local cuisine. They don’t have to eat expensive imported food for every meal.
  • Drinks wine/beer very moderately [wine here is imported and expensive]

My Observations and Nancy’s Responses

  • I lived on $1240/mo. during my first year in Thailand. I made lots of mistakes and wasted lots of money but, after 6 months, found I could live quite comfortably on $600. For example,
  • I rented a long-term studio in town for $80/mo. [see photo below] Utilities added $10.
  • My long-term scooter rental, $100/mo. includes registration and insurance, servicing, new tires as needed, and a new scooter every 12 months. I’ve had no scooter problems. But see Nancy’s observations about scooter danger, below.
  • I stay within the $200 food budget and have never eaten a better diet in my life.
  • All my regular medical and dental expenses are out-of-pocket because I’m over 70. Thai health care is excellent and cheap. I just paid $600 for a root canal and crown.
  • Toiletries are cheap. An organic skin cream costs $4 a good haircut $7.
  • ‘Entertainment’ is up to you. I like wandering around observing Thai culture.
  • The Internet provides plenty of information and entertainment, and I went to the pub to watch major sporting events since I don’t like having TV at home.
  • Cel phones are cheap; overseas calls are not. Skype or use Google Hangouts to call home.
  • Nancy is not kidding about Thai girls and savings accounts. They’re not mercenary, it’s just part of Thai culture. You are a rich farang whether you think so or not.
  • There are decent restaurants where you can have three bottles of ice-cold beer served at your table for a total of $5.33, and good meals for $3
  • You’ll notice the absence of a clothing budget. Clothes are so cheap here and you wear so few of them – shorts, tee-shirt, flip flops – that it’s not an issue.
  • So budget! Thailand’s cost of living is still a steal! Work out how you want to live, then just do it!

Budget for Living in Thailand Costs vs. Scooter Danger

When I shared my observations about scooters with Nancy her response was, as usual, grounded in a reality that I’ve never experienced. Here’s what she said: “I stand by my original observation the elderly shouldn’t use motor scooters. It isn’t a matter of “if” they’ll have an accident, but rather “when” and “how bad”. Just come with me to the orthopedic wards at Suan Dok hospital to see what a motor scooter accident can do. These aren’t the guys with the head injuries – they’re in another part of the hospital”. See my web page on scooter dangers in Thailand.

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More about Thai Budgets and Cost of Living

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So there’s food for thought for your budget for living in Thailand. Do you think you can make it?

Chiang Mai Cost of Living

Comments

  1. robert & cathy scantlebury says:

    Thinking seriously of moving from Perth WA to chiang mai. we are both healthy retirees just turned 70.
    Want to know as much as we possibly can about the city. Need more time to digest all this info, but we are very interested at the parts we have so far read. Can’t afford to live comfortably here for much longer!! Are the figures quoted (money required in a thai bank) per person or per couple. Are apartments/rentals furnished, or does it depend on cost/location

    • To Rob and Cathy.
      If you wish to use the retirement visa’s you need to show 800000BHT, $27000AUD, in a Thai Bank when you renew your visa.
      Be careful with regards to receiving a Centrelink pension. If you are you, need to return to Australia every five months and 27days to keep your pension. If you are fully self funded then no problems but, leave the majority of your money in an Australian bank and draw down from that account for your needs each month.
      Chiang Mai is a beautiful city. We return there every Australian winter for 3/4 months.
      You can get fully furnished condos. Riverside condo for example, a 1 bed, 1bath on a year lease from $540AUD a month plus utilities. Closer to the city and malls can be more. A house in say Hang Dong, San Kampeang, San Sai, 2bdrm 2 bath furnished, in a moo baan (complex gated with security anything from $450AUD a month plus utilities. You can get studio rooms, basically furnished with maybe a fridge and microwave for less but……….
      Living simply like the Thai do an average meal, from a roadside stall for two, under $3AUD. Eat like you do at home, big meals and it will cost the earth.
      Like I said Chiang Mai is a beautiful place. If you learn the language it is even better.
      Regards
      QLD

    • The figures quoted depend on the visa service you’re using. Ask your local Thai consulate what they require for a couple: it varies depending on the individual consul. If you don’t qualify, contact me using the contact form on this site and I’ll organize a way around it for you. You can find apartments and houses furnished and unfurnished in all locations.

    • Nigel and Diane says:

      Hi Robert and Cathy
      Diane and I also live in Perth, have just retired two years ago (we are not yet of pension age). Just wondered whether you are living there now? We have been to Chiang Mai a few times now and we love it there–clean, safe, very affordable lifestyle, friendly Thais and expats; in other words, cheap living compared to Perth! We are seriously planning to live there six months of the year or so.
      Regards
      Nigel and Diane
      Kingsley Western Australia

  2. Mark Olwick says:

    I wish this would be updated for 2018, and put a third option between the dirt cheap $500/mo and the rich $2400/mo. Something along the lines of $1,100 or $1,200 budget.

    • You cannot make a decision based on what other people think is a reasonable standard of living. Some enjoy scraping by and some like to live it large. Come for six months, write down every cent you spend and on what, then sit down and work out whether you can live like that for the rest of.

  3. I love Thailand in general and Chiang Mai in particular. Great bog – very interesting.

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